@Kenny, Do gays wanna have heterosexual wedded couple benefits? Yes right? All I'm saying is, don't call it marriage, and ppl will be happy. Im not saying bring God, Jesus, Buddha, Zeus, or any other religous symbol into the topic, its just that in THOSE RELIGIONS, and many others too, they would much rather prefer it to NOT call it gay "marriage". Marriage symbolizes the unionship of a man and wife.

Civil Union would be a helluva lot better a term for people to be comfortable with. If you were to put a survey right now about the name for it, I bet you most people would agree with me. And don't even joke about arresting me, as I take that kind of language very seriously.

@mrducky, Yeah I know. But the shock factors your using, you could ease up a bit on. I mean, sending a video about a rabbit humping a kitten? That kinda gives a verbose message to those reading this topic.

Are you paying attention to just that? Or are you reading the rest of the text, but ignoring it?

Again, I'm still neutral on this, but I believe marriage is 2 human beings coming together and forming a very close relationship.

For side:
No matter what the gender of the partner, it is still love. People should deserve the right to love. Even if gay marriage is banned, this love cannot be broken.
Against side:
Traditional marriage has been a man and a women. It's human nature to keep traditions, and it's also very important. Also, something I didn't say before. I have met many people, many of which, homosexual. I'm sorry to say but I've had a bad reputation with homosexuals. I've heard that they dance half nude on the streets, and the excuse they come up with is "expressing themselves". NOT this kind of expression, and definitely NOT in public. The ones I have actually met personally are very perverted and vulgar. They use the most disgusting language and jokes. If 2 were to marry and get children, I'd just feel sorry for the children with these kind of parents...

Well then...maybe I am against gay marriage. But I do still think they should have their rights...but idk anymore.

1. perhaps it wasnt just them being gay that makes them behave like that, perhaps they were/are douchebags.
2. go to any major cities streets at 2 am and when the drunkards come out, those people are far worse, should this impact heterosexual relationships? no.
3. not everyone is fit to be a parent. homosexual or not, the criteria goes beyond sexuality.


Is the union between two people, male and female that is legally recognised and carries with it rights and priveledges.

Well I haven't met many people as messed up as the homosexuals...sorry for being harsh here but I'm just speaking my mind.

Ok, by that definition, I would like to bring this up:



that is from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (which I've been using a bit in debates) set by the UN. While not legally binding, it indirectly pressures countries into accepting its ideals and sets standards for countries to follow. So gay marriage, by that definition, violates the Declaration, and pretty soon, countries would be pressured into taking gay marriage as a right. Why not start now and avoid the risk of being left behind in the world stage and make your country look socially backwards?

As for religion, as mrducky said, it hasn't been mentioned in the Bible. I think people are starting to believe that what isn't in the Bible is wrong in the eyes of God now....

i have met some heterosexual people who are REALLY messed up, i havent met many people as messed up as the heterosexuals.
and some humans i have met are really messed up, ergo all humans are messed up

you are generalising from how many homosexual people you have met?

was it a one off thing where all of them were drunk or is this a day to day connection/contact with homosexuals?

i know you believe you are "just speaking your mind" but you are coming off as quite the tool.
thats me speaking my mind.

as for the topic at hand, im not even sure which side im arguing against which arguments. ill take my leave until something shiny sparks my interest.

I'm all for removing all legal benefits involved with marriage and transferring them to Civil Partnerships.

Let the baby have his bottle and make marriages straight-exclusive, but take away the point of getting married and switch it over to Civil Partnerships. See how many of those fundamental Christians are waiting in line with the gays for one.

nice bump.

i guess you have to face that society is money driven