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MmCm6 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:19 am

First, my religious statement was not my main argument, I just included it for the sake of argument.
Second, I am not very good at debating things from a religious standpoint; I like to explain things logically and scientifically. So I concede that and stick to the psychological aspects of evil, my main argument.

Btw, I'm on your side on this one.

TheKidd · **Posted:** Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 pm

God created, Lucifer, an angel. He was the most beautiful angel, but his problem was he thought he was just as good as God, and so he thought he should be god. He was mistaken, and so God gave him earth. He gave him the earth so that people would have a reason to come to God. If there was nothing bad happening, why would we need a higher power? But there are bad things happening. Because of Satan. God gave us free will, we need a reason to come to him, and this way we have a choice to go it alone, or get help.

I think it's funny when ducky takes verses out of context. I haven't read any of his posts from this thread... though from others, it's obvious. When me and him used to argue... I was hardly a christian, had no relationship with God, and now I do. I would actually get mad at ducky, now I feel sorry for the poor guy.

Matthew 6:27 Will worrying about your life make it last an hour longer?

God is there to be a friend to lean on, not a greedy lord, a loving Lord. During the droughts, famines, floods, earthquakes, if people turned to God they would find that life is a lot easier. And that time on Earth is only momentary. Life is only a moment. In the bible, it says, To God, one day is a thousand days, and a thousand days is one day. He lives forever, we "live" for 80 years, if we're lucky. Life in heaven is eternal, makes that 80 years seem like... nothing? Yup. Nothing. Don't worry about evil, turn to God with your problems.

ZeR47 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:39 am

TheKidd wrote:

God created, Lucifer, an angel. He was the most beautiful angel, but his problem was he thought he was just as good as God, and so he thought he should be god. He was mistaken, and so God gave him earth. He gave him the earth so that people would have a reason to come to God. If there was nothing bad happening, why would we need a higher power? But there are bad things happening. Because of Satan. God gave us free will, we need a reason to come to him, and this way we have a choice to go it alone, or get help.

I think it's funny when ducky takes verses out of context. I haven't read any of his posts from this thread... though from others, it's obvious. When me and him used to argue... I was hardly a christian, had no relationship with God, and now I do. I would actually get mad at ducky, now I feel sorry for the poor guy.

Matthew 6:27 Will worrying about your life make it last an hour longer?

God is there to be a friend to lean on, not a greedy lord, a loving Lord. During the droughts, famines, floods, earthquakes, if people turned to God they would find that life is a lot easier. And that time on Earth is only momentary. Life is only a moment. In the bible, it says, To God, one day is a thousand days, and a thousand days is one day. He lives forever, we "live" for 80 years, if we're lucky. Life in heaven is eternal, makes that 80 years seem like... nothing? Yup. Nothing. Don't worry about evil, turn to God with your problems.

+1 to that I agree with all of that specially the second paragraph

mrducky · **Posted:** Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:04 am

ZeR47 wrote:

any ways Ducky I like how you say something then prove your self wrong and example is this

mrducky wrote:

where they are violated WITH GUNS so hard that internal bleeding kills

now right there thats sayin a man is doing that with FREE WILL and the women can do what ever at Free will from God but the evil man is holding her back not god, god is letting her choose what to do

no.
that is the woman getting raped by men and various instruments until she dies from internal bleeding. where is her free will? what happened to her say?
so the woman wants to die a slow horrible death in agony after getting raped by several crazed men. i like your logic.

what about children in africa dieing from malaria? can you really try to justify is freewill by saying its our choice that we

TheKidd wrote:

He gave him the earth so that people would have a reason to come to God. If there was nothing bad happening, why would we need a higher power?
freaking egotistical monster. its like throwing a child to a pack of lions so after it gets attacked and runs to you, you appear like a saviour. saviour? pfft. sadistic fiend.

But there are bad things happening. Because of Satan.
i mentioned the story of job, it illustrates how satan is god's fall man, he listens and is on a leash controlled by god.

God gave us free will, we need a reason to come to him, and this way we have a choice to go it alone, or get help.
i could have sworn it was the Bumba god of the boshongo religion that offered that, he did afterall vomit the universe into existence.

I think it's funny when ducky takes verses out of context. I haven't read any of his posts from this thread... though from others, it's obvious. When me and him used to argue... I was hardly a christian, had no relationship with God, and now I do. I would actually get mad at ducky, now I feel sorry for the poor guy.
and you avoid my posts in this thread 3 posts before this one so you dont have to address anything. smart man. avoid your superior quack quack

God is there to be a friend to lean on, not a greedy lord, a loving Lord.
you just said he scares humanity into submission of him by unleashing evil (satan) upon them. i cant really tolerate this kind of love. what happened to hugs and kisses?

During the droughts, famines, floods, earthquakes, if people turned to God they would find that life is a lot easier.
unless said disasters kill them and their family. god's aim isnt perfect eh?

And that time on Earth is only momentary. Life is only a moment. In the bible, it says, To God, one day is a thousand days, and a thousand days is one day. He lives forever, we "live" for 80 years, if we're lucky. Life in heaven is eternal, makes that 80 years seem like... nothing? Yup. Nothing. Don't worry about evil, turn to God with your problems.

or.. try to solve those problems rather then do nothing, getting on your knees and praying. lets see... action vs inaction that feels emotionally rewarding, i know what the weak minded choose.

ducky out.

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