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psg188 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:31 am

Well that graph wouldn't necessary show anything conclusive.

Just prior to the event a major attack took place, which would require lots of tokens... then afterwards the war was over, so obviously there'd be much less spending.

You're smart enough to not start quoting statistics that are obviously affected by outside factors.

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:47 am

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If you really were past it, the vitriol would be much less.

This whole thread reeks of spite, not of genuine concern.

Oluvai's agreement with you is out of ideological differences in how this game should be run, which don't meld with the type of game it is, but his opinion stands.

I don't see anyone who isn't on your side posting here. From my experience most people are quite happy with Seth's administration. He's the most active and unbiased from what I've seen, having been on both sides of issues with him.

Yes I am being spiteful. Why do you think I shouldn't be? Ive seen these types of bans, time and time again, happen without recourse for the players involved. And its time this was brought to light.

Oluvai's ideological differences, in how this game should be run, what rules should be enforced and how they should be enforced is in reality reflected by a lot of folks in here. That is something that you probably dont know. They just dont speak up. Another thing to note, is that he is proposing a system that is simple and clear. Probably that is something we should not have according to you. What you think this game should be, is your opinion. You are free to even push the admins, developers, the game creator etc., They may even be accepted. But that doesn't make it right. It doesnt even make it wrong. Its just that its your idea, and maybe the kind of games you like to play, and I like to play are different. I think that's what it is. Id like a game where I can do anything, be it smart, clever or shady (as defined in BD, if you do something a bit unconventional). I like surprises. I like getting outwitted, or outwitting someone else. You like one that follows a pattern, and if someone strayed away from that pattern, they would fail.

Just so you know that is no strategy game.

From my experience, everyone knows that Seth is indeed more prompt than other admins in his responses. However most people do have a problem with the way he administrates his servers. I think if you count the number of bans handed, Seth would have the maximum count on any given day, and he would also have the maximum judgement calls made on any given day.

I will neither play nor spend another dime on a game like that. It is incredibly costly as is, and on top of that arbitrary rules is just unacceptable and atleast I wont stand for it. Unless of course things move for the better.

Pagan · **Joined:** Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:52 pm **Posts:** 67

Oluvai wrote:

It is plausible some portion of the community legitimately finds flaw in the thinking any known individual should be able to play his colony within the interests which make him happy and provide him game enjoyment, though, even that I doubt is controversial.

It is plausible some portion of the community legitimately finds flaw in the thinking any known individual should be able to limit other player's rights to play their colony within the interests which make them happy and provide them cheating free game enjoyment .

Oluvai wrote:

While I appreciate in this case you liked the outcome, that's intellectually dishonest. And, I assure you, there'll be DIRECT evidence supporters do not support the decision Seth made. That you do, is tragic and embarrassing, but, fine as an individual election.

I assure you, there's DIRECT proof tokens and spending dried up dramatically sometime Saturday afternoon and will not pick up. And that it's quite likely Seth's next several eras are financial under performers. You will not be privy to that info, but it'll occur, and I suspect in a few eras you'll actually understand that by something which takes place to make it clear.

I assure you that game will survive just fine without all those who use threats, you and alike you are presenting here. It is poor and distasteful attempt of a pressure on game staff and i'm sure the majority of the players who are here only to enjoy a fun bringing, no pressure free on line game will be better off without a likes of you.

I recall JD once claim he could buy a separate server for BD ... why not... do the private server, i'm sure Michael will not mind sell you one and there you can choose the rules or "no" rules option as you wish and also choose the players who you wish to play with. You will indeed be the customers and game kings there.

I forgive you for your vanity but not for your attempt to pressure the admins to bend in direction you wish them to.

psg188 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:23 am

Evidence so far states it's not most people on your side. Oluvai and NO&crew only.

The rest seem happy with Seth. If you want a server with all the slave colonies and such, you can go set one up or vote for one. I think vanilla BD can stand without it.

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:31 am

Oluvai and NO&Crew and allies vastly outnumber Kevin and Juno

psg188 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:35 am

And the rest of the people posting in here, and the rest of E4 and people happily playing/donating to Seth.

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:05 am

The few folks that have posted here supporting Seth are those that dont understand whats going on. E4 is dead btw. You are the only guys attacking AE and others.

psg188 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:11 am

You guys are attacking THOR too.

Plenty of people still logging in, your side is just louder. You are good at being loud, which is a nice alternative to being right.

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:24 am

We are right. We are loud as well. We are loud because of the unfair decision that's all. And yeah, I forgot few folks are attacking THOR. Though a few squads launched here and there is not really actively playing.

psg188 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:29 am

Well until some people who are against slave colonies, but for what NO did, I don't think anyone will see this complaining as anything but spite.

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